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I agree that while topics like, for example, reincarnation are far behind proven beyond reasonable doubt, saying to any research by Jim Tucker and ,during his lifetime, Ian Stevenson to the question, can science investigate "is there reincarnaton", "no, according to science there can be no reincarnation, we aren't having this discussion" based on what we know in biology and neuroscience is dogmatic. It is one thing to say that based on the evidence against the possibility of reincarnation, the evidence for it is not proportional to it to say, but we can conclude beyond reasonable doubt, it is real. It is another thing to say that the evidence against such possibility means it is not worth science's time amd money to evaluate the evidence for it and it legitimizes "harmful and dangerous belief". It shows that treating anything coming from religion is dangerous superstition shows that atheists in America have allergic reaction to religion (which is understandable, given how atheists are treated by religious right) and that undermines open minded discussions. While argument there were open minded discussions on matters of God and afterlife including reincarnation in the 19th and first three decades of 20th century, and it is just proponents lost, well but now it is 21 century and no they didn't disprove the paradigm. But I salute UVA, a prestigious university for continuing discussion. Now, when it comes to public research universities and National Academy of Sciences, because it is not objective establishef fact, and not a part of any established scientific theory, engaging public institutions like NAS or spending public money on it, compromises principle of separation of religion and state and therefore I think it was good idea for NAS to do away with public funding for any miracle and afterlife research. Let the private funds do it.

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Hi Giulio

>> "I see strong parallels between Italian fascism and its leader and modern day American fascism and its leader"

> "Sorry, I don’t know who is the leader of modern day American fascism."

Benito Mussolini staged a coup d'état on October 28 1922 in order to become dictator of Italy, Donald Trump staged a coup d'état on January 6 2021 in order to become dictator of America. The only difference is Mussolini's coup d'état worked, Trump's didn't. But Trump hasn't given up. 

 >> "Nobody says somebody doesn't have a right to do psi research, but such people do NOT have a right to demand respect from scientists for such activities"

> "I’m sitting on the fence with an open mind. If I were a psi researcher, I wouldn’t demand respect. I would just demand to be left in peace, like, do your research and I’ll do mine, and let experiment decide."

If I was a professor and was on a committee to determine if somebody should get tenure at my university, and all they had done was conduct ESP research that had led, just like everybody else's ESP research, precisely nowhere, then I would definitely vote against granting tenure. This is because, due to finite resources, there's only a limited number of people who can receive it and there are plenty of good mathematicians, physicists. chemists and biologists who deserve it more. If that were to happen the rejected professor would undoubtedly scream that he was being discriminated against, and that would be true, we would be discriminating between good scientists and bad scientists, but he would even claim that he was the victim of censorship, but that would not be true. He's free to say whatever he wishes to say and is free to continue with his "research" ; it's just that the university has decided not to continue paying him to do it. If you pay somebody to conduct yet another investigation into spoon bending to go with the 6.02*10^23 ones that have already been done then you don't have the resources to pay somebody else to conduct research in an area that is almost certain to be more productive.

John K Clark

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