There cannot be anything wrong with using Transhumanism, aka science and the philosophy of physics as an APP for anyone's religion. It's a mental app so how awful can it be? It just poses that material action is going to be the big boost in following the spiritual path. If the Mormons wish spruce up their faith with bettering the human condition, this can only help things.
Beyond all this, discoveries in physics, astronomy, and computing, etc; only can enhance the religious experience. If this doesn't work for a person, good! Rock on. Be a happy atheist! Good on you. The main thing is we all keep moving toward the Big Goal. Giulio produced an essay back in June 4 2019, where he as a physicist was able to identify the notion that memory gets stored in the universe, like in a database. For physics heads, this is Gauge Theory come to life by some prominent physicists. No, they probably don't talk about the implications, and, I am guessing the authors are "happy atheists," too.
Thanks for the link to High Flight by John Gillespie Magee, Jr., very nice words!
I am all in favor of bettering the human condition with material action including the development of ultra-tech. I think this will happen and I'm happy for this. But we shouldn't fall into the delusion that this will happen next week. In the nineties we thought nanotech and physical immortality were just around the corner, but now we know that it is not.
Also, really, rationality is great, really great, but it is not the only thing, and it is not the most important thing.
If atheists are happy, then I'm happy for them. But I find it difficult to understand how atheists can be really happy, unless their atheism is indistinguishable from some sort of religion with the promise of some sort of afterlife (like the spiritual naturalism described by Eric Steinhart in "Believing in Dawkins." But then why don't just call it religion?
I'll post this to Twitter of course (I usually share these posts one or two days after sending them to subscribers), and I look forward to using Twitter much more.
For me, Dr. Prisco, we have enough religions, what we could make use of are sub-philosophies, I will call mental apps. A mental app might be ways of dealing with life via knowledge, & if it works for the individual, faith. One thing that I have noticed over the years, is that a lot of people, mostly women, seem to instinctively view The Universe as God. How they come to this is a mystery to me. So, as a mental app, I have taken on faith (of sorts) that they are correct.
Hence, your post 3 years back on memory and the universe sort of clicked for me. For professor Steinhardt and Believing In Dawkins, good book, however, even Dawkins 20 years ago said he wouldn't rule out "godlike intelligences inhabiting the universe." So in essence Dawkins and Steinhardt celebrate the god of Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick. Being an atheist is fine with me, especially if one does science and God gets in ones way? Or as The Buddha said, "If you are walking in your path, and The Buddha stands in your way, strike him down." This means to me, if you can do better, don't let my way stop you.
I am agreeing that the Singularity is not just around the corner, and it is for our remote descendents to achieve. However, I am betting on micro I singularities along the way. AI designed and improved drugs, medicine, and inventions, might do us superbly, for our time. This seems probable if we can pass the Putin, and Xi eclipse now threatening our species, far beyond the long term threat of climate change?
Another measure of our arc of capabilities as a species and the time it will take to arrive there was a proposal by futurist, Alexsy Turchin him with his idea of using a Dyson Sphere to resurrect the dead. Energy wise, he thinks that capturing the energy from the Sun gives our descendents enough power to accomplish this. Such a worthy project requires a proper budget, and comparatively, we currently are having a bit of trouble getting enough solar panels up to replace fossil fuels, so, yes, this could be a while?
Getting better solar cells, batteries, and cars, would seem to get us closer to the Singularity, plus medicine, too. So, I am prepared to wait! :-).
Thanks Spud. I must be prepared to wait, because waiting is the only thing I can do. Therefore, my mental app is to think that I, my loved ones, and everyone else, will be resurrected by God-like agents operating in the (probably very far) future.
I don't know *how* - Perhaps Turchin's ideas, and Tipler's, and the ideas of other contemporary thinkers, all contain valid elements. But I guess the science of technological resurrection will need new concepts that we can't imagine or name at this moment.
My Turing Church mental app helps me find peace and happiness, avoid paralyzing despair, and find the drive to do whatever little good I can do here and now to contribute.
By virtue of the fact that the relic denoted in my previous comment is in the possession of the said "Holy See", doesn't mean that the relic rightfully belongs to the See!... indeed, it's come to my attention that the present owners of the shroud have come by way of it through FALSE PRETENSES, and that its RIGHTFUL OWNERS have been denied control by way of the manipulation (and destruction) of the histor(ic) records associated with the artifact!
For simply, the artifact that belonged to Joseph... that was then reclaimed by the followers of Jesus Christ to prepare Christ for burial!... was not a part of Rome's APOSTATE SPIRITUAL DECEPTION! The shroud has been taken under false pretenses, to give credence to the false Roman church, spoken of by Apostle Paul before His death. And should be reclaimed by the "SPIRITUAL DESCEDENTS" of Joseph and of those who were commissioned by God to fulfill a NON-CATHOLIC DUTY to bury our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ... and such, were not a part of Satan's FALSE CHURCH, fabricated by the BRUTAL and MURDEROUS "Holy Roman Empire"! The relic belongs to the TRUE FOLLOWERS of Christ, who lived according to Christ's CLEAR MESSAGE of LOVE... and not to those who began Satanic-led "ANTI-CHRIST CRUSADES" that put to death both believers and non-believers! The relic belongs to CHRISTIANS!... and to, and for CHRISTIAN POSTERITY!
To conclude... miracles are yet to be manifest by the artifact... and its disposition is to be decided by God (as there is nothing hidden, that won't be made known!)!
It recently dawned on me that Quantum Semiosis (see, Biosemiosis) and Quantum Epigenetics (see, Epigenetics... and the transfer of "Semiomas/ Semiograms" [or Semiotic Engrams] to Genetic Memory, Epigenet[icly]) has much to say about Quantum Archaeology... indeed, I suggest that KVANTOSEMIOARCHAEOLOGY (Quantum Semiotic Archaeology!) should replace Quantum Archaeology, outright. It's my view, that much more encoded idiosemiotic information is communicated epigenet(icly), than we can-- presently!-- begin to appreciate.
See also, The new astonishing phenomenon detected on the Shroud / God's Flat Earth (paste the title [only] within genmirror.com/ytp's search bar, and hit Enter... the video with an aqua-blue repeat relief of the relic. Simply put, it's the best narration.).
All the best!... and no emails required!
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BTW!... your "Blog Comment Host" widget has "recognized" genmirror.com/ytp's as a legit URL (though, adding my possessive ['s] makes it unworkable)... and should have only recognized, genmirror.com/ytp (i.e., without the possessive ['s])!
Try the URL address again... but, this time, without the additional, 's!... and then paste the cited longform URL title within the website's search bar, and hit Enter (see, my initial message).
As for Biosemiosis... and the contemporary followers of Charles Sanders Peirce... I am at a loss for words! Nevertheless, I'll await your-- no doubt!-- brief learning curve on the subject matter... and, whether such-- in your view!-- has any bearing on Quantum Archaeology. Re Epigenetics, although Quantum Archaeology (your field of note... of several... cited within Wikipedia) is not associated with Epigenetic data storage, it isn't a "stretch" to surmise that a Quantum Archaeologic artifact can be had by way of Epigenetic storage... and that Quantum Semiotic Semiomas/ Semiograms (as I term them), are central to what is contained within such DNA repositories. What is retained, and how it is retained, remains to be gleaned... and revealed.
Nonetheless, if all this remains unclear... yea, is believed to be a jest-- of some sort!... I bid you adieu, and God's blessings!
There cannot be anything wrong with using Transhumanism, aka science and the philosophy of physics as an APP for anyone's religion. It's a mental app so how awful can it be? It just poses that material action is going to be the big boost in following the spiritual path. If the Mormons wish spruce up their faith with bettering the human condition, this can only help things.
Cosmism works fine for most.If you like your cosmism without Russian dressing try High Flight by Jon Gillespie Magee Jr. https://www.yourdailypoem.com/listpoem.jsp?poem_id=819
Beyond all this, discoveries in physics, astronomy, and computing, etc; only can enhance the religious experience. If this doesn't work for a person, good! Rock on. Be a happy atheist! Good on you. The main thing is we all keep moving toward the Big Goal. Giulio produced an essay back in June 4 2019, where he as a physicist was able to identify the notion that memory gets stored in the universe, like in a database. For physics heads, this is Gauge Theory come to life by some prominent physicists. No, they probably don't talk about the implications, and, I am guessing the authors are "happy atheists," too.
https://turingchurch.net/the-infrared-memory-of-the-universe-hints-at-future-akashic-physics-3f9a072f0ca6
I would advise that Giulio post the link on a now Liberated Twitter. It's an idea. I look forward to reading what Jon Bialecki has to add.
Rock steady, everyone.
Thanks for the link to High Flight by John Gillespie Magee, Jr., very nice words!
I am all in favor of bettering the human condition with material action including the development of ultra-tech. I think this will happen and I'm happy for this. But we shouldn't fall into the delusion that this will happen next week. In the nineties we thought nanotech and physical immortality were just around the corner, but now we know that it is not.
Also, really, rationality is great, really great, but it is not the only thing, and it is not the most important thing.
If atheists are happy, then I'm happy for them. But I find it difficult to understand how atheists can be really happy, unless their atheism is indistinguishable from some sort of religion with the promise of some sort of afterlife (like the spiritual naturalism described by Eric Steinhart in "Believing in Dawkins." But then why don't just call it religion?
I'll post this to Twitter of course (I usually share these posts one or two days after sending them to subscribers), and I look forward to using Twitter much more.
For me, Dr. Prisco, we have enough religions, what we could make use of are sub-philosophies, I will call mental apps. A mental app might be ways of dealing with life via knowledge, & if it works for the individual, faith. One thing that I have noticed over the years, is that a lot of people, mostly women, seem to instinctively view The Universe as God. How they come to this is a mystery to me. So, as a mental app, I have taken on faith (of sorts) that they are correct.
Hence, your post 3 years back on memory and the universe sort of clicked for me. For professor Steinhardt and Believing In Dawkins, good book, however, even Dawkins 20 years ago said he wouldn't rule out "godlike intelligences inhabiting the universe." So in essence Dawkins and Steinhardt celebrate the god of Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick. Being an atheist is fine with me, especially if one does science and God gets in ones way? Or as The Buddha said, "If you are walking in your path, and The Buddha stands in your way, strike him down." This means to me, if you can do better, don't let my way stop you.
I am agreeing that the Singularity is not just around the corner, and it is for our remote descendents to achieve. However, I am betting on micro I singularities along the way. AI designed and improved drugs, medicine, and inventions, might do us superbly, for our time. This seems probable if we can pass the Putin, and Xi eclipse now threatening our species, far beyond the long term threat of climate change?
Another measure of our arc of capabilities as a species and the time it will take to arrive there was a proposal by futurist, Alexsy Turchin him with his idea of using a Dyson Sphere to resurrect the dead. Energy wise, he thinks that capturing the energy from the Sun gives our descendents enough power to accomplish this. Such a worthy project requires a proper budget, and comparatively, we currently are having a bit of trouble getting enough solar panels up to replace fossil fuels, so, yes, this could be a while?
Getting better solar cells, batteries, and cars, would seem to get us closer to the Singularity, plus medicine, too. So, I am prepared to wait! :-).
Be well, Dr. Prisco.
Thanks Spud. I must be prepared to wait, because waiting is the only thing I can do. Therefore, my mental app is to think that I, my loved ones, and everyone else, will be resurrected by God-like agents operating in the (probably very far) future.
I don't know *how* - Perhaps Turchin's ideas, and Tipler's, and the ideas of other contemporary thinkers, all contain valid elements. But I guess the science of technological resurrection will need new concepts that we can't imagine or name at this moment.
My Turing Church mental app helps me find peace and happiness, avoid paralyzing despair, and find the drive to do whatever little good I can do here and now to contribute.
P.S., Giulio Prisco...
By virtue of the fact that the relic denoted in my previous comment is in the possession of the said "Holy See", doesn't mean that the relic rightfully belongs to the See!... indeed, it's come to my attention that the present owners of the shroud have come by way of it through FALSE PRETENSES, and that its RIGHTFUL OWNERS have been denied control by way of the manipulation (and destruction) of the histor(ic) records associated with the artifact!
For simply, the artifact that belonged to Joseph... that was then reclaimed by the followers of Jesus Christ to prepare Christ for burial!... was not a part of Rome's APOSTATE SPIRITUAL DECEPTION! The shroud has been taken under false pretenses, to give credence to the false Roman church, spoken of by Apostle Paul before His death. And should be reclaimed by the "SPIRITUAL DESCEDENTS" of Joseph and of those who were commissioned by God to fulfill a NON-CATHOLIC DUTY to bury our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ... and such, were not a part of Satan's FALSE CHURCH, fabricated by the BRUTAL and MURDEROUS "Holy Roman Empire"! The relic belongs to the TRUE FOLLOWERS of Christ, who lived according to Christ's CLEAR MESSAGE of LOVE... and not to those who began Satanic-led "ANTI-CHRIST CRUSADES" that put to death both believers and non-believers! The relic belongs to CHRISTIANS!... and to, and for CHRISTIAN POSTERITY!
To conclude... miracles are yet to be manifest by the artifact... and its disposition is to be decided by God (as there is nothing hidden, that won't be made known!)!
Hi, Giulio Prisco!...
It recently dawned on me that Quantum Semiosis (see, Biosemiosis) and Quantum Epigenetics (see, Epigenetics... and the transfer of "Semiomas/ Semiograms" [or Semiotic Engrams] to Genetic Memory, Epigenet[icly]) has much to say about Quantum Archaeology... indeed, I suggest that KVANTOSEMIOARCHAEOLOGY (Quantum Semiotic Archaeology!) should replace Quantum Archaeology, outright. It's my view, that much more encoded idiosemiotic information is communicated epigenet(icly), than we can-- presently!-- begin to appreciate.
See also, The new astonishing phenomenon detected on the Shroud / God's Flat Earth (paste the title [only] within genmirror.com/ytp's search bar, and hit Enter... the video with an aqua-blue repeat relief of the relic. Simply put, it's the best narration.).
All the best!... and no emails required!
In Posting ANYWHERE, I give NO SANCTION to/ for a breach of my Constitutionally protected Rights and Freedoms, nor, to/ for a violation of any of the "Articles" to be found within the "Universal declaration of Human Rights"/ UDHR (and, e.g., Article 27 of the UDHR, wherein we read: 1. Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community [e.g., this site], to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits; and 2., Everyone has the RIGHT to the PROTECTION of the MORAL and MATERIAL INTERESTS resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he [one!] is the author [e.g., the Blog Comment that you are now reading!]). And so and thus, EVERY WEBSITE on the Net-- by Human Rights default-- must not only provide webizens with a Blog Comment Host widget with which to facilitate PUBLIC Free Speech and Press Freedom re PUBLICLY POSTED site blogs, but also ensure that webizen Postings (Public or Private) are Constitutionally and UDHR protected! And if there be a dispute between the Privacy Policy of this site and the Constitution's and UDHR's Rights and Freedoms, the latter shall prevail!
Hi John, I understood nothing of what you said. I assume this is some kind of joke, but if so I'm totally missing your point.
Hang on to your shorts, Giulio...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYzLr4kAdM
Wow cool thanks! Loved "Incomplete Nature."
https://www.amazon.com/Incomplete-Nature-Mind-Emerged-Matter-ebook/dp/B005LW5JAS
BTW!... your "Blog Comment Host" widget has "recognized" genmirror.com/ytp's as a legit URL (though, adding my possessive ['s] makes it unworkable)... and should have only recognized, genmirror.com/ytp (i.e., without the possessive ['s])!
Try the URL address again... but, this time, without the additional, 's!... and then paste the cited longform URL title within the website's search bar, and hit Enter (see, my initial message).
As for Biosemiosis... and the contemporary followers of Charles Sanders Peirce... I am at a loss for words! Nevertheless, I'll await your-- no doubt!-- brief learning curve on the subject matter... and, whether such-- in your view!-- has any bearing on Quantum Archaeology. Re Epigenetics, although Quantum Archaeology (your field of note... of several... cited within Wikipedia) is not associated with Epigenetic data storage, it isn't a "stretch" to surmise that a Quantum Archaeologic artifact can be had by way of Epigenetic storage... and that Quantum Semiotic Semiomas/ Semiograms (as I term them), are central to what is contained within such DNA repositories. What is retained, and how it is retained, remains to be gleaned... and revealed.
Nonetheless, if all this remains unclear... yea, is believed to be a jest-- of some sort!... I bid you adieu, and God's blessings!